Filing an UCC-1 in Your Birth State

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Filing an UCC-1 In Your Birth State

Q: Is it necessary to file a ucc-1 in your state of birth?(new york)

A: There are many schools of thought on this – ultimately it depends on where you wish to go with this. What we have done so far is establish a common law claim to the use of the legal name [the security agreement] and we had that recognized by the State by using a notary who bridges the gap between common law and legislative law. On one hand he is a professional witnesss and on the other hand an agent for the State. And by filing the UCC-1 into “their system” you now have documentation substanciating that you as a human being exist as a seperate enity from their strawman and have a contract in your posession that substanciates that seperation.

So by all intentions you have by your copyright notice given notice to the public and have recorded your assertions in “the system” and have documentation to prove it. What further communication do you really need to create to substanciate that fact?

Remember you have declared yourself the sovereign, the King makes the rules. Or you can follow their rules which are so devious that technically you will probably make a mistake somewhere along the way. What we have done is clarify an intention and created documentation that we can provide as evidence should we ever need to prove that we are not the strawman [and/or responsible for the strawman].

Now to take it one step further should they look for you in their records and not have any of your new paperwork in your birth state on record does this nullify what you already have proof of, I don’t think so but that is only my opinion.

[Outside comment: This is my opinion as well, ucc1 docs, once recorded are not nullified, they just expires if not recorded as Transmitting U. The purpose to file in the berth state is if you need to go to court in that state records are recorded and are on file.

This is what I was told by a UCC personel in South Carolina when I inquire about that very question.]

[[ Pausible reason – The rule is to notify all possible parties and departments connected to where your strawman records are kept and in that way you are sure to cover all the bases. Insert the clause notice to agent is notice to principle]]

[Outside comment: Have him go to NY’s site to view rules governing where to file. I have looked it up for you: http://www.dos.state.ny.us/corp/uccfilinguide.html The truth of the matter is, individual states are not in one accord as to how they are interpreting the revised article 9. I’m glad I went to NY’s interpretation as they tell you that they do not have any hard-and-fast rules. They also even go as far as to show you “how not to right out the Debtor’s name” on the UCC1. A lot of SOS site’s simply do not get this friendly with their instructions.

The reason why you want to file in the Debtor’s birth state is to establish jurisdication there as well as in the state of the debtor’s residence and local recording {after receiving file number from state’s SOS office} in the county recorder’s office if you are securing real estate. Once you have filed in the ‘berth’ state, if it is different from the Debtor’s resident state, you have a choice to create an “In Lieu of” ucc1 in the resident state. An In lieu of ucc1 moves jurisdication from one state to another. Or create a new ucc1 from your resident state.

However, none of these documents will do him a bit of good if he doesn’t understand WHY he has to do the necessary administrative paperwork in order to separate himself and capture his strawman and the strawman real and personal property. And the true administrative to this rememdy is hidden and I’m not sure if any one person has the proper process for another.]

[[ Not sure of the county recorder though – at one time the sheriff was acting on behalf of the citizens of the county and was able to organize a possee of citizens in common law jurisdiction and in that same sense the county office acted as a common law office of records. Now I suspect the sheriff operates as a “policy enforcer” (police force). Not sure but I believe likewise that the public office of records has been taken into State juridiction to track its inventory so to speak so not sure if recording has the impact it once did. Any comments or sources on that for this canadian national? ]]

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